Hey all.  This is my first attempt to create a stop mo character, and I am having some issue with his size. I want him to be a pretty bulky guy but right now his padding is preventing a lot of movement. I have some of the drawings I did as concepts to help clarify what I was thinking.  Any ideas on how to make this work a bit better?  

He is about 7 inches tall, wire armature with epoxy putty in the chest & hip, cotton batting for stuffing, and wrapped in some kind of cloth medical wrap/gauze. His head is sculpey3 (I was out of super sculpy).

My plan is to use him for a 20-30 second short sequence I have story boarded.  His beard, mustache, and eyebrows will be clay, and for his fingers I was thinking more sculpey or possibly epoxy putty again. The whole body will be covered in felt or cloth eventually. The only exposed skin will be the head.  

I'm open to any and all suggestions. If I need to start over from scratch it's all good. This is just for fun and exploration at this point, before I decide if I want to invest into ball and socket armatures or foam latex or anything like that.

Thanks in advance!

Also, sorry about the photo quality. I don't own a scanner.

 

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What are the limitations to his movement? Is it bending at he waist, or do you have trouble putting the limbs where they need to go as well? I like the style of the drawings, but he's pretty bulky all right. The way you have constructed him sounds pretty good to me, so maybe you just need thicker wire, or more strands, to overcome the resistance and let him bend further without just springing back.
I've been working on a couple of sumo wrestlers so i've had a similar problem. (They don't have clothes to cover much, so they needed to be sculpted.) One is cast in foam latex and can do pretty much anything I want, even though
He wrinkles a bit. The other is silicone, and he just won't bend in the middle without springing right back, he'll need a third strand of 3mm wire in the spine. HE's 11" tall, I wouldn't use 3mm for a 7" puppet, usually 3 or 4 stands of 1.5mm is enough. But for this guy maybe a couple of strands of 2mm in each leg and spine would help.
With your big guy, even the clothes will restrict movement a bit, they won't stretch on the outside of the bend, so they need to fold and compress on the inside. For that reason I probably would use a thinner fabric, not felt.

When I make cushion foam bodies, i sometimes make horizontal cuts around the waist with scissors, to help the foam open up more when the puppet bends. Its hidden under the costume so it doesn't matter how it looks. I don't think this applies with cotton or polyester stuffing though, I would think it is already pretty flexible.

I think you'd get much better movement with a synthetic polyfil rather than cotton batting - it has a lot more spring to it and expands more aggressively - you can crush it down and it just springs right back, whereas when you crush cotton down it kind of just compresses so far and doesn't want to spring back very well. Actually though I think cushion foam would be even better. 

Thanks for the responses.  My trouble areas are; bending at the waste, and I get a little rebounding of the legs at the hip.  A coworker of mine suggested that I just remove some of the stuffing between the chest and hips and just let the clothing cover it.  I haven't tried it yet but I'm worried about the looseness of the clothing at that point.  Thanks again!

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