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Hey All!

I'm a filmmaker researching the authenticity and provenance of this footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsQCXN4o4Ps

It was published in May of 2011, so DragonFrame could have been used. I have postulated that it could be a modified "Mars Attacks" (that was unused in final production) puppet originally made by Mackinnon & Saunders.

I have determined that the filmic FX, and timecode were added later using BorisFX Sapphire and Consolas font repectivley.

Playback is at 1/2 speed at 25fps.

Would anyone care to comment on this or add information?

Also, please let me know if I should post this in another category.

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I forgot to include this one: https://youtu.be/a6TLGkrfNKI?t=71

The first one looks more like live action puppetry to me, possibly using rods and cables.  As one commenter said, how did they get the shirt on over the huge head?  Possibly because the head is detachable.  Yes, it could be stop motion, frame grabbers have been around since 1990 or so. The second one, with walking, would be trickier to do with puppetry than the one in a static position, but still possible.  It is framed tight enough to get away with a lot.

Thanks for your reply.  Would you say that is it more or less likely that this was made with a puppet or pure CGI?

If this is a Mackinnon & Saunders creation they'd be able to let you know. Contact them. https://www.mackinnonandsaunders.com/

I don't think this is stop motion at all. The shape of the body is of human proportions, albeit a skinny person. The hands are standard latex jobs and the head is plenty big enough that it could have some eyelid mechanism in it.

I used to do special make-up effects for television, and one of the main principles for any job was hiding the edges of the prosthetic - in this case it is just tucked into the jumpsuit. The neck is particularly thick, which helps the effect.

I reckon I could make something pretty similar in a fortnight. (But I am not offering!)

All you then have to do is take some shaky, blurry footage without sound and voila! I mean, how crappy were movie cameras in the 1940s? Way better than this, which looks like something from the very early 1900s. So it was deliberately downgraded to disguise the effects.

And there is another giveaway. People wearing costume heads tend to tilt them forward to see through whatever slits they have. This is clearly happening here.

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