hello I’m new to stop motion animation but I’ve bought books and watched guys on multiple topics I’ve got a somewhat gyst of it but obvisally I don’t know everything I have multiple short story’s I’m working on writing and multiple music vids I’m wanting to do and I was wanting to ask I have this one short that will include crashing waves against a rock and something swimming under the sea and Ik I could use gel ect and cgi (I don’t really wanna use cgi and I’m not sure I’m any good at it anyway) and here’s the main thing after all my blabbering

I was wondering Ik there replacement used fer facial animation and splashes or water ect. I saw amazing works with dioramas resin water with details I love so I was wondering if I could make replacements of the ocean shots with resin replacements I understand it would be a lot of work but I feel like it could work anyway I’d like to hear others opinions on it. (and I’m sorry for any spelling or sentence errors Ik I’m horrid at them)

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Resin replacements have been used for splashes, like when raindrops hit, and for pouring water.  I use twisted cling wrap or cellophane for pouring liquid, works just as well and doesn't take time to make.  Replacement ocean waves is an interesting idea, but they would have to be very big I think, if you are doing the whole surface.  You would need a shape to mould a wave, then you pull the resin off and modify the shape and make another one.

Recently someone posted here - they made a water surface using a sheet of clear plastic, with bars underneath that all move together, creating a series of waves that move towards the shore, and that was looking really good.  The final shot hasn't been done yet, but the tests were coming along very well.   They didn't have rocks to crash against though, that is where the replacement waves might be useful.  You can do something with crumpled bits of cling wrap that you change each frame to get the splash, I did it once for a big splash coming up from a swimming pool after the puppet bombed in and it looked ok.  (Not my film and not online so can't show you.) I also used cling wrap for a splash from a bucket in this very short film, if you want to see how it looks - at about 0:20, but the whole thing is only 35 seconds long:  

 

I did paint a few separate little drops of water in post-production to add to it.  (And I mostly kept the cgi water surface in the canal out of the frame, just a shot at the beginning to establish it. )  No doubt a sculpted and cast set of clear resin splashes could look better, but this didn't take much work. 

I have been playing around with a 3D printer recently, and you can get clear filament, which actually comes out rather similar to aerated water, so it might be possible to make splashes and print them out.

But you have to be able to design them in a program like Blender and then send them to the printer....or, and here's a thought. The PLA filament has quite a low melting point, so it might be possible to shape the resin by hand (wet your fingers frequently!) and get a lot of useful shapes quite fast. I haven't tried it, and it may be a crazy idea, but who knows.

Please take care with hot plastic if you are not confident about it. I take no responsibility for any injury! You have been warned!

Thank you for the info I’ll do some tests when I get time and cash if the clear plastic idea could save me some time that would be nice I was originally planning on making the whole ocean in the resin eh think flat then have the replacements ready to switch out for the crashing waves so multiple replacements for every single wave and the crashing ones (I’m bad at explaining sometimes I’m sorry) but if I enjoy the other methods that would be so much time saved money saved and sanity saved for another film XD I tend to go massive and in the saying o don’t bite off more than you can chew I shoved the whole thing in my mouth making my jaw stuck XD  the script isn’t done yet but I like testing things out before hand maybe I’ll post some of the tests on here idk but again thank you very much

StopmoNick said:

Resin replacements have been used for splashes, like when raindrops hit, and for pouring water.  I use twisted cling wrap or cellophane for pouring liquid, works just as well and doesn't take time to make.  Replacement ocean waves is an interesting idea, but they would have to be very big I think, if you are doing the whole surface.  You would need a shape to mould a wave, then you pull the resin off and modify the shape and make another one.

Recently someone posted here - they made a water surface using a sheet of clear plastic, with bars underneath that all move together, creating a series of waves that move towards the shore, and that was looking really good.  The final shot hasn't been done yet, but the tests were coming along very well.   They didn't have rocks to crash against though, that is where the replacement waves might be useful.  You can do something with crumpled bits of cling wrap that you change each frame to get the splash, I did it once for a big splash coming up from a swimming pool after the puppet bombed in and it looked ok.  (Not my film and not online so can't show you.) I also used cling wrap for a splash from a bucket in this very short film, if you want to see how it looks - at about 0:20, but the whole thing is only 35 seconds long:  

 

I did paint a few separate little drops of water in post-production to add to it.  (And I mostly kept the cgi water surface in the canal out of the frame, just a shot at the beginning to establish it. )  No doubt a sculpted and cast set of clear resin splashes could look better, but this didn't take much work. 

A 3d printer would help a lot but sadly i can’t afford it and I could give messing with that a shot also I’ve seen vids of diorama makers waiting till a sweet spot to mess with resin and mess with it to get certain shapes so ready and willing captain XD also don’t worry XD I won’t blame ya fer anything 

Simon Tytherleigh said:

I have been playing around with a 3D printer recently, and you can get clear filament, which actually comes out rather similar to aerated water, so it might be possible to make splashes and print them out.

But you have to be able to design them in a program like Blender and then send them to the printer....or, and here's a thought. The PLA filament has quite a low melting point, so it might be possible to shape the resin by hand (wet your fingers frequently!) and get a lot of useful shapes quite fast. I haven't tried it, and it may be a crazy idea, but who knows.

Please take care with hot plastic if you are not confident about it. I take no responsibility for any injury! You have been warned!

If you are doing waves, try using clear acrylic rods, with plastic or sparkly thread wrapped round it diagonally, then rotating the rods each frame to get the motion.

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